Let’s Talk Love Podcast Episode 127 - A Sneak Peek into In Bloom 2026 | Transcript

19.03.26

 

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Welcome to Let's Talk Love, a space for real conversations, fresh perspectives and expert wisdom. We dive into the joys, the challenges and the beauty of relationships, learning and growing in community. Join us as we expand our relational literacy, becoming better at love together.

So many of us are asking the same question, how do we show up better in our relationships, especially when it's hard? That's the heart of in bloom. Real Love Ready's annual love and relationship summit in Vancouver, BC, In Bloom 2026 features an incredible lineup of teachers, Glennon, Doyle, Abby Wambach, Dr Shefali, Dr Alexander Solomon, Dr Frank Anderson, Francesca, Hogi, Lair and Ashley Torrent Buddy Wakefield and Demona Hoffman. And in today's episode, you'll have a chance to get to know many of them.

In Bloom takes place April 10 to 12th in Vancouver, BC, and you can also join virtually from anywhere in the world. Visit inbloom.com to get your ticket and use the code LETSTALKLOVE to save 15% most of us were never taught how to love. Well, we were handed stories about love, not skills. That's why I wrote Real lLove. Read, A Guide to Relational lLiteracy. This book is about learning how to actually do love differently, how to communicate clearly, how to set healthy boundaries, how to build deeper connection in the relationships that matter most. You can pre order your copy at realloveready.com/book, or through the link in the show notes, let's learn how to love better together.

Robin Ducharme l Hello everyone, and welcome to this extremely, very, very special episode of Let's Talk Love. I'm your host, Robin Ducharme, and today we are joined by our incredible speakers, experts, teachers of this year's in bloom, love and relationship summit this year, April, 10, 11th, 12th, in Vancouver, BC, and anywhere that you live around the world, if you could tune in on your computer, you can be with us. We are joined by this amazing group of people who are going to help us build our relational literacy. And what is relational literacy? The way I break it down is like, this is our language. This is our toolbox. These are skills that we can all learn to be better in relationships. And I truly believe I know with my whole self that there is nothing more important in life than our relationships to each other. You know, I think about when we when we die, guess what? Even on a deathbed, you know what? We're not going to be wondering, you know how much money is in the bag. We're going to be actually thinking about the people that we've loved and that and the legacy that we've left behind in the hearts of the people that we've touched, that's so that's a little bit heavy, but I really, really believe that. And so our mission at real love ready, and it's a mission I believe we all hold, and a responsibility we all have is, is to build relationships, healthy relationships, loving relationships. And we can, we can learn skills to do that better. And so we're going to come together in April in Vancouver with this fine group of people, and we're going to learn how to do that in the best way possible. And I'm telling you, this is our fourth year doing In Bloom in Vancouver. And I'm telling you, when people leave the summit, whether you tuned in on your computer or whether you were there in person, people leave changed. You know, we're gonna we're gonna learn from the best teachers available. And then it turns into practice in your real life, in every day, in the choices you're making, in the thoughts you're having in the behaviors that you are exhibiting in your relationships. So I look forward to learning with you, and we're going to have fun getting to know our group of speakers. So thank you all for joining me.

Buddy Wakefield l Absolutely

Dr. Alexandra Solomon l Thanks for having us.

Ashley Torrent l Thank you.

Lair Torrent l Thank you.

Robin Ducharme l So can we please go through our group and start with you, Ashley, could you introduce yourself please and maybe tell us what you're going to be sharing with us and teaching us during the weekend?

Ashley Torrent l Sure, sure. I'm Ashley Torrent. I'm a psycho spiritual counselor and intuitive medium, and Lair, Lair and I will be presenting a talk on Friday about the sacred purpose of relationships, and I feel like what we're really being called collectively and individually, is to look at relationships less from an egoic place, less from just our wounding and our personality selves, but something deeper that a love that we really haven't tapped into, that is richer than romantic love, richer than maybe the surface love we've talked about and just how each relationship can reflect where we are in our relationship to ourself and what life is asking of us.

Lair Torrent l Can I add to that.

Robin Ducharme l Yes please Lair.

Lair Torrent l In full disclosure, we've actually never spoken together as many times as we've done things like this. This is our maiden voyage together. So we'll see how it all gels once we're there in Vancouver. But everything Ash said, of course, and whenever we start talking about I'm called to something Sue Johnson has said in many of her interviews around her book, Hold Me Tight. She said that therapists and the couples that they service are typically only willing to go to the water line on so much that ails them. And I find it in my work with my clients, and, quite frankly, in our work together in the 25 years that we've been working on this beautiful relationship, we can get mired in the stuff on the surface that's not unimportant, the kids, the sex, the money, all of those things are absolutely important. But it's when we dive below that water line and we get into what am I here to know, and what am I here on a soul level to actually heal that, you know, I find is the deepest in some of the most profound work that I've done personally and I've done with my clients. And I know that I've done it myself, especially early in my career, getting caught up in so much of that is what I've learned to drop clients and myself below that water line and into things like the big four questions that I think we ask when we come out of come come into this world, which is, am I loved? Am I safe? Am I enough? Am I going to matter to someone? And one of the most profound moments in my relationship with that woman right there, was when I realized that beyond the protector parts of her that have shown up in this relationship to protect her from the vulnerabilities and the wounding that she's experienced, that behind those parts, there's just this little girl in her that wanted to know that she was going to be loved. And so when we can bring clients to that place, there is a depth of healing when we can find out what it is they're here to know about themselves, not make this relationship work. Sure, that's the hope for byproduct of the depth work that Ash and I have been trying to do with ourselves. Never ask a client to walk a path you're unwilling to walk yourself and with our clients.

Robin l Wow. Lair

Lair Torrent l That's all I got.

Robin l It was beautiful. Oh my gosh. Like, see, see what I'm saying. Like, what we're going to take away from this, I'm already be there. Thank you very much. It makes me you know, I'm going to be introducing my book at the summit, and the first chapter is how love is the curriculum. And this is that, this is the concept that we are all spiritual beings having a human experience, and our souls are here for a reason. We're here to meet each other, and we have divine, sacred contracts. And when we look at love as a school, school life as a school, Dr Solomon talks about this as well. It's like when, when your relationships are are looked at as sacred, sacred agreements that you made to to actually come together and learn together. It's a totally different and amazing perspective. Dr Solomon, would you like to go next? Since I just talked about you.

Dr. Alexandra Solomon l You teed me right up. I'm so excited to be this is going to be, I feel like it's going to be like a Rubik's Cube. You just get to look at all the different facets of the Rubik's Cube. You know, through these different teachers I'm going to be talking with, with the In Bloom In Bloom crew, about my talk is called, Are we okay? How to what to accept and what to change in our intimate relationships? And I think that we so easily get stuck in these tug of wars around, you know, if you would change this, I would feel better. If you would accept this, I would feel better, you know. And there's this way that the dance takes on this polarizing quality, and we lose each other, and we lose all of the you know, we get kind of like locked into the power struggle, and we miss those deeper layers. So I'm a licensed clinical psychologist and a couple therapists and an academic at Northwestern University, and I've been teaching on relationships for very nearly 30 years, and I I'm more than happy to kind of plant my flag somewhere in this relational matrix and explore, look at the cultural lens, the interpersonal lens, and of course, what's being brought up inside of us based on our family of origin, history, gender role socialization, cultural conditioning. So that's what we'll do around this tension between acceptance and change.

Robin l Wow, beautiful. The way that I Dr Solomon, you teach a course at Northwestern called marriage, 101, right to university students. And I think of this weekend at In Bloom. It's like, it's like, it intensive. It's like going back to going to school in like, on high level, relational learning for two days, cumulative, and people leave, and it's like, holy cow. What just happened? What did I just, what the heck I just, I learned so much, and now like so it's just incredible. So thank you so much.

Dr. Alexandra Solomon l Would you, Robin might we even call it marriage, one of one for the grown and sexy pherhaps?

Robin l Oh, I like that. Yes, yes. Marriage, one of one for the grown and sexy. Love. It perfect. Francesca, can you please introduce yourself and tell us what you're going to be teaching us through Friday and then a workshop on Saturday, on Sunday.

Francesca Hogi l Yes, so I am Francesca Hogi. I am a coach and author. I used to be a matchmaker, and then I decided to pivot to teach people to be their own matchmaker, because I discovered that a lot of people look at matchmaking as a silver bullet, and love is a journey, and it's about, you know, I came in late, but I heard what you were saying Lair, and I totally agree. You know, love is a journey, and we're meant to be learning and growing in our ability to love. And so the two things that I'm going to be teaching on it In Bloom, and I can't wait. So I'm going to be doing a keynote about romantic energy. And this is a concept that I have come to in my coaching, because I I'm an overthinker, and I work with so many clients who are overthinkers. I'm sure you can all relate. And because I work with single people who are looking for a relationship, so many people are in their heads about, you know, who should I date, and what should I be looking for, and how do I present myself? And they're so looking for all of these tactics that they're not actually tapping into this more unseen element of what actually makes a situation and a relationship and a dynamic romantic and how they can tap into that and not just be in their heads all the time, but be more in their bodies, be more present, be more intentional about the energy and the dynamics that they're co creating with other people. So I'm going to be talking about that, and then I'm going to be doing a workshop on one of my very favorite topics, which is flirting. And flirting is something that I teach a lot about. I just I have a TED Talk that came out a couple months ago about unlocking your flirting superpowers. And so I'm going to be really going deep, and everyone on the room is going to be flirting. Going to be introducing them to my definition of flirting, which is very inclusive, very accessible, and some different styles of flirting that I'm not going to go all the way into all the styles of flirting, because there are eight in my book, but we are going to be talking about three or four. I haven't decided, depending on the timing, I have to work out that timing of those more foundational elements of flirting that make people very successful at making connections in a very authentic way that you know feels very natural to who they are, but also is aligns with the goals that they have in terms of building a romantic relationship with someone else.

Robin l How exciting I love that, and I'm looking forward to learning more about flirting. I mean, we can all be flirts, right? Damona Hoffman, would you like to add to because you're working with, you know, you're helping people find love in your everyday. You're going to be hosting our virtual experience, but you're also going to be moderating our Q and A on Saturday.

Damona Hoffman l Yes, yes. And I love Franny is a dear friend, so I'm glad she's going to be there with her flirting tips, but yes, we started kind of in very similar ways of like as she was saying, teaching someone to be their own matchmaker. I started out as a online dating coach and profile writer 20 years ago. Before, before it was it was cool before the big swell of dating apps that have really changed the way that we connect and communicate, and so I've been spending a lot of time lately thinking about that and how we take all of the tools, the technological tools that we have to connect and communicate and use them for good, and use them to to actually not just have chatter. There's everyone's speaking, but nobody's really being heard. And so I'm excited to be the live stream live event moderator in the virtual version of this event, because I really want to connect and help other people to connect and take some of the themes from all of these amazing speakers that we have here who will be sharing so much wisdom. How do we synthesize that and turn it into not just knowledge, but actually action that we can implement into our lives when we leave the event? So I'm very excited to join for that. I will this is my second year at In Bloom, I did one of the keynotes last year, and it will be really a delight also to moderate the Q and A and see the questions that are coming up from everyone that is attending there live and also virtually, will be able to incorporate what's what's coming up for you as you're going through this experience, because it's a lot of rapid learning and rapid transformation. And I'm very thrilled to return again for In Bloom.

Robin l Thank you to Damona. I'm so happy that you're going to be hosting, you're going to be modeling the online communication tools, right? Because we're all online, whether on our phones, computers, Zoom meetings, and it's like, how do we connect, across the screen, through the through our technology. So there you go. Dr Shefali, can you please hello, thank you. I'm so happy you're going to be joining us this year in Vancouver.

Dr Shefali l Thank you. Thank you. Such a such an honor to be amongst such an amazing group of people. And I think what we all have in common is this desire to go beneath the surface to a deeper place of transparency and honesty and truth, and like Alexandra said, we all coming at it in different ways. So my session is called, live your truth, a radical awakening experience, based on my book, A Radical Awakening, where I will be helping people in a very interactive, live session to really uncover the masks that they wear in their relationships and in the world, the parts that protect them. And how can we begin to release those masks and really touch the pain that lies beneath them, because these masks cover a pain that has not yet been healed, a pain that hasn't been processed, and once we learn to sit with that pain, we no longer need to wear masks. It is our belief that we need to protect ourselves that keeps us actually engaged in authenticity and in a persona. So I will be helping people release their masks, get inside their pain, and learn how to soothe that inner pain and reparent themselves.

Robin l Wow, inner child work, and you're going to make it accessible and easy to understand and easy to integrate.

Dr Shefali l I hope so. I hope so

Robin l Absolutely. Thank you, Buddy Wakefield, you're going to be opening our whole summit. This is amazing, Buddy. I'm so excited about this. So I was part of a writing workshop, and you were one of our teachers, and you're going to be helping us with language and language we're using, and tell us, Buddy, thank you for joining us during the summit.

Buddy Wakefield l Yeah, thanks for having me. Yeah, I'm about language mostly to point a finger in the right direction. And as much language as there will be, it's more of a show not tell situation. I'll open it with five to seven minutes of inspiration. I don't want to say too much, because mine's sort of a bookended perfect cake. There's not too much just I'll open with a poem, and I'll close with a writing workshop, largely inspired by watching y'all all weekend and bringing an amalgamation of all of your best teachings into one moment, 45 minute moment for everybody attending to make sure they have for me at this moment, feels like a Queen Liz Gilbert inspired love letter to oneself at the end, pulling from everything they've learned from you and I'll facilitate a prompt session and writing sessions so that everybody has a letter to return home to

Robin l Amazing Thank you. I can't wait. So I love me just

Buddy Wakefield l There's a to be said about that, and it's more of a in the moment thing.

Robin l No, you know what Buddy, I know from just the time that we've spent when I took the course, when you were teaching us in the writing workshops, and then just in our interactions, it's like you always bring so much humor and surprise and spontaneity and just like the wonder and fun. So thank you so much, Buddy.

Buddy Wakefield l Thank you.

Robin l So I thought we would just have have some fun ourselves and just do like, a little bit. We'll just ask some questions, and I would love, I'm gonna ask the question, and I would love for you to answer, and we'll learn a little bit about you. We'll start with Dr Shefali. What are you doing when you're not teaching? What are you up to? Who are you when you're not teaching?

Dr Shefali l Oh, my goodness, I don't teach full time. I would go crazy if I travel a lot. I love to visit indigenous cultures, so I travel almost once a month somewhere new, and I try to do that in my life consistently. I read. I'm always trying to read something or the other, and I do a lot of my own writing. So just for my own self, my journaling, my own reflections, so and then just being in nature. You know I think these are my pillars that keep me grounded and sane.

Robin l Oh, that's beautiful. Who would like to go next? Dr Solomon

Dr. Alexandra Solomon l Well, my gosh. I mean, I'm reporting in today from Florence, Italy. So I'm doing a bit of traveling. We are, my husband and I are still pretty early in our empty nest journey, and so we're we're really getting to explore. We're in this new phase of reimagining our relationship with each other and our relationship with our careers and time and space. And so it's feeling like this expansive, expansive time of yeah, but my pillars I also time with my girlfriends is vital and sacred. I'm realizing that more and more in this season of my life, time with girls and fitness, you know, I I access my body through movement. My favorite fitness right now is my Monday night cardio fun dance class where my my moves are big and pretty, pretty unapologetic,

Robin l Nice

Damona Hoffman l And we better see them at In Bloom. Okay

Dr. Alexandra Solomon l You will Friday night you won't have to ask me twice

Robin l We'll see some of these moves here during. Opening with Anne Marie Hoggia on Saturday. She gets us moving and Alexandra can add hermoves. What about you Francesca?

Francesca Hogi l Well, I mean, I definitely relate to, well, not the dancing and not the empty nesting, because I don't have any children, but I definitely spend a lot of time journaling, walking. Walking is, like, that's my exercise. That's what I do for exercise. And I walk like, an average of seven miles a day. So I really walk a lot.

Robin l Wow.

Francesca Hogi l And that's my that's my mental health reset, that's my my form of meditation. That's my physical exercise. So it's very important to get my walks in. I don't care about the weather. If it's raining, then I just have to dress for the rain. If it's cold, then I just have to dress for the cold. If it's snowing, I just have to dress for the snow. But nothing stops me from getting my steps in. But I'm also a very big journaler I journal first thing in the morning when I wake up and I try to do a little journaling at night right before I go to bed, just some closing thoughts for the day. But yeah, I'm always reading, you know, spending time with the people that I love. I do also travel a lot like you Shefali, I'm kind of on the go a lot, which is something that I love doing. And yeah, just spending time with the people that I love. Yeah,

Robin l Beautiful. What about you, buddy?

Buddy Wakefield l Wow, lately well, the love of my life is meditation, so I like to make sure that happens. Lately, I've actually quite needed it. I've been booking a seven week North American tour ending with y'all beginning in Santa Fa, next week with Tig Notaro. I'm over the moon about it. Just found out. I'm putting out. I'm putting re releasing two books poetry. I'm I just had, there's been a London based film crew here in Porto to Portugal, where I live with me for the last 10 days, filming a movie pit, about a 10 minute movie short, basically to pitch a bigger the bigger idea, I have been and I've been learning Portuguese for quite some time now. It hasn't come over quickly, but I'm not doing too bad, and I've got my accent down more than I've got the language down. So we're good.

Robin l It's a good start. It's great. What about you Ashley?

Ashley Torrent l Yeah, I love surfing, so I'm surfing as much as I can, and really just still integrating our life here. We've been here a year, and try to be outside as much as possible. And just really love exploring my own creative practices writing, and I'm teaching myself to draw and paint, and then helping my boys, who are in a punk band with their writing songs, and like watching them play, and that's another like part time job that we have right now, so it's really good.

Lair Torrent l I'm the one carries the equipment, so that's part of what I do.

Robin l Awesome. Lair. Do you want to add a little bit more? Yeah, for the punk band

Lair Torrent l We we serf all the time. Sometimes we serf double sessions, once in the morning, once in the in the evening. So we've really integrated that into our Costa Rican life. It was a major dream come true. We didn't realize that the boys band would take off the way it has. They're a little duo. The youngest, Jasper, who's now 13, plays the drums and Jake plays the guitar and sings and I mean, they are loud. We actually got shut down at a bar not too long ago, but they're playing these dive bars in Tamarindo, and they played like 13 shows last year. So like when I say, this is a a part time gig for me, it's, you know, and Ashley managing these two fools. But it's joyful to see them like express themselves and, you know, we homeschool them so, you know, helping them dig into their writing, into exploring their feelings, through their songs and all the stuff that comes up around around that again, integrating our lives here is, you know, another big part of our daily life.

Robin l How lucky for the boys to have you, managing them and guiding them.

Lair Torrent l It's so crazy. It would have never happened in the States, I don't think, but somehow Costa Rica has embraced their punk vibe. So yeah.

Robin l That's awesome. Damona Hoffman, what are you doing when you're not teaching and all the things?

Damona Hoffman l All the things I know I have Robin, I have so many hobbies. I need to offload a couple, but I do spend a lot of time on the road. I love traveling, but luckily, I've aligned my work with a lot of that, so I do a lot of speaking and leading workshops around the country, and when I'm at home, I'm also a mom. I have two kids, so sometimes I'm a dive mom, sometimes I'm a swim mom, sometimes, sometimes I'm doing gigs Lair with my son, who plays electric guitar, if you need somebody,

Lair Torrent l If you can play bass, he's gonna try out for sure

Damona Hoffman l Well, as long as I can get my 10% agent cut, but, but I also love a lot of the things that many of our other speakers have said, journaling is a regular practice yoga. I'm also a gym rat and a Pilates rat, and I love hiking seven miles I got to work up to that Francesca, so I can join you in Vancouver. Maybe we can do like a separate event that's like a walk with Francesca. Add on for the experience. But you know, I most love connection and being with people, so I put a lot of effort into maintaining my friendships, maintaining my relationship with my husband, and doing fun things. Let's have more fun this year.

Robin l Oh yes

Damona Hoffman l Go to Disneyland. I'm going to the theater. I'm dancing. All of these things make us feel alive.

Robin l Yeah

Damona Hoffman l I love that.

Robin l Well, I'll tell you in in Vancouver, we are going to bring the fun and the joy, because this is, you know, we're talking about relationships, and we want to have relationships that are joyful and just that give us, you know, more juice and like, they make us feel alive. So that's fun and joy are huge, huge importance in my life, and we're going to make sure we have a lot of fun in Vancouver. So I thought I would do one, one last question, and we could just anybody answer please. But I would love for us to just share what is one relationship myth that we just all need to retire for good?

Dr Shefali l I have one, okay, that that relationships shouldn't end. I think so much, so much pain, because there's this fantasy that they should last forever.

Lair Torrent l I have one that romance, good sex and rom com moments are the goal that's not the goal that's the byproduct, byproduct, of the depth full healing that we do with ourselves and with each other.

Robin l Yeah, I've never heard it said that way, Lair. It just it's makes sense. Absolutely.

Damona Hoffman l Robin oh, go ahead. Dr, Alex,

Dr. Alexandra Solomon l No, you go.

Damona Hoffman l Well, since I wrote a book called F the Fairy Tale, Rewrite the Dating Myths and Live Your Own Love Story, I'm big into busting myths. But I think the biggest one is that relationships are work. I mean, most people don't like work. Work feels like something that it's a big lift. And I look at relationships instead as a mirror, as an opportunity for growth and self discovery and expansion and collaboration with a human so I think we got to really rewrite this relationships or work myth and make it more something that people want to show up for and punch in the clock for.

Dr. Alexandra Solomon l Yeah, I like that one. I was gonna say that the idea that relationships should make us happy, I think there's sort of the idea that relationships should make us happy, and I don't think that's the goal of a relationship. I think there's this, like, really complex blend of who we get, who we are to each other, who we get to be to each other, and then the byproduct, similar to what Lair was saying, the byproduct is that we perhaps experience happiness, but we'll always experience meaning. You know, no matter where the relationship takes us that really, to me, it's more about what's the meaning that you are making together, what's the meaning you're driving from it? How are you evolving? And then hopefully, the happiness is sort of part of the journeying.

Francesca Hogi l Yeah, I was gonna say something similar Alexandra, which is, yeah, just the idea that it's your partner's job to make you happy, and people always looking for someone who makes them happy, and really recognizing that happiness is an inside job, and the point of your relationship is not to be happy all the time. And you know, it is a co creation, and being able to access your own joy is actually the prerequisite to having any kind of lasting happiness in any type of relationship with another person.

Robin l Yeah, Buddy, do you want to add anything? No pressure

Buddy Wakefield l At this at this point in my journey, I'm interested in generating balance, consistency and balance, as opposed to generating passion. Having been all or nothing in touch and go my whole life, I feel like passion comes with such a expectation and and I'm really interested in gen, not so much generating passion, heated thing as I am balanced that, um, feels more sustainable to me from how I view passion.

Robin l Yeah, having balance.

Buddy Wakefield l But I've written on busting myths for love. So I don't know

Robin l You've written, you've written books on busting myths on love?

Buddy Wakefield l Yeah, no, I feel like I'm surrounded by people who've really broken this down in in many ways, and graphed it and charted it, and I'm just offering my moment.

Robin l Well, I can, I can tell you that the community that comes to In Bloom, that attends In Bloom, these are people that are dedicated to their relationships, to themselves and to having the best relationships they can, and they're there to listen and learn. And every year, I'm just so, just so grateful and amazed at people coming up to me and saying, Robin, this stuff works like my marriage is transformed. My life is transformed. I've seen like the changes are happening, and they're not little, they're huge. And I'm like, that's why we're doing this. This is why we do the work we're doing, right? It's just, it's beautiful. It's, it's a beautiful byproduct of, you know, just our relationships are just like the best, the best. And I love doing it. Love talking about love. So we had to do it for the whole weekend. So I want

Dr. Alexandra Solomon l Robin

Robin l Yeah

Dr. Alexandra Solomon l I was gonna say, you know, Damona and I both will, will have, this will be our, you know, we're, we're repeat customers to you. And I was saying this before we started that there's something really quite magical that you are able to create at In Bloom. And it's, it is the faculty that you bring together, but it's the people who are drawn to you. And there is, there's just a really beautiful energy, and so it's like the experience of the weekend is walking the talk, and it's I think these workshops are going to be amazing, but what's also amazing are just the conversations that happen on the way out of the ballroom or on the way to grab coffee. So I'm so excited for everyone who's attending, both online and in person, at the kinds of conversations that they will get to have with each other through these, you know, inspiring talks that they're going to get to hear.

Robin l I really appreciate that, Alexandra, I think the greatest change that we can affect in the world is being that which being the best we can be and the most loving we can be. And that is going to ripple out. And you're going to see this weekend, it's throughout. We are, the room is like full of love, and that's what and really it is, and it's powerful. So I can't wait for all you to be there in person. So I want to thank each of you so much. So so so much for being here today, and, of course, for for joining us in Vancouver in April. I'm just going to give our listeners. If you have not bought your ticket yet and you want to join us in Vancouver, please go to in bloom summit.com and if you put in the code, let'stalklove, you can receive 15% off your ticket. And if you join us virtually, Damona Hoffman is going to be hosting, and I hope you go to Vancouver, but either way, I just hope you join us no matter where you are. So thank you. Thank you. Thank you, and so much love and blessings to each of you and for everybody listening.

Lair Torrent l Thank you, Robin.

Ashley Torrent l Thank you.

Dr Shefali l Thank you. Thank you.

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